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»CL0: Objectivity & Passivity
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Written by »CL5:Darkhawk »CL6:of »CL5:IRIS
»CL1:Have you read Wades article in this
mag about objectivity yet? As he wrote
about something I wanted to write
about too, I will just go ahead and
write more of the same.. Ehrr no, not
quite, but it will be about the same
topic. »CL8:I wanted to write about
objectivity and negativity, but I will
just skip some things and mainly focus
on interpretations of objectivity.»CL1: I
will expand my article idea into
another article I wanted to write,
after seeing how many people in the
scene react to something that is both
akin to, and developed, out of this
topic.
First off, however, I want to add to
Wades writing about objectivity. »CL7:He
has clearly defined one instance of
it, the 'neutral, observing stance'
version, and told you that this
version in diskmag writing is a thing
that should only rarely, if ever, be
sought, certainly not in reviews.»CL1:
Many people have this habit of crying
'subjectivity' when the writer writes
something negative, and 'objectivity'
when he writes something positive
(especially if it is about them,
their production, or similar), so
that 'objectivity' for them, is to
express oneself nicely/inoffensively,
not negatively, about a given topic.
While this is not the true definition
of the term, we might humour this a
bit. »CL8:Try to imagine a scene review in
this vein, taken to the extreme. What
would it consist of? I was tempted to
do such a review this time, but
laziness got the better of me.»CL1:
However, it would consist of
listings. Listings of effects, of the
number of colours, of the screen mode
used, of the amount of bytes in it,
the amount of articles, the amount of
lines of code, the amount of
'whatever'. »CL7:It would consist of a
description of musical style (jazz,
funk, techno, whenever such phrasing
would be unambiguous to people), of
the names of those who did it, of
tedious, matter-of-fact statements
about the things on the screen (e.g.
'Now we see a so-called Metaball, on
a 256 colour screen.'»CL1: etc.. Infact
much like Azzaro's own review in the
last EC), and lastly, if the reviewer
wanted to add a bit of spice, he
could write about how other people
have received the production,
moreover, he would have to do this
truthfully. Would this be a good
article? Well, it would have many
things speaking against it, it would
fail to capture the reader, and it
would fail to express the opinion of
the author, who might have some deep
things to write about it. After all,
philosophy, creativity and inherent
understanding of a text, of its
intrinsic value (or lack thereof),
does not come through a cold, clinical
analysis of it, infact one will very
often not get any good view of a given
thing, by such means. »CL8:Dissecting
things without regard to the meaning
inside never produces a good result.
However, I am carried away here.»CL1: I am
very much in agreement with Wade on
this topic, but I wanted to elaborate
too.
What some people call 'objectivity' is
'to talk nicely and not negatively',
others understand it as 'being a
neutral observer, only writing about
that, which you can directly observe,
without interpreting'. »CL7:Both methods
are quite clearly wrong, when one
wants to write an article , and it
shows the word-ly confusion we can
have.»CL1: Different minds, different ways
of interpreting words. Also, in the
'real' world, objectivity is neither
of these two things anymore. Yes, the
latter has been the ideal of the
Newtonian science for a long time, and
is quite inherent in our western way
of thinking, although it has been
largely abandoned too. Without
commenting too much on this aspect
however, I can safely state that the
cultural/humanistic sciences do not
operate with that interpretation of
objectivity, and those sciences, if
you should not have guessed already,
are the basis for modern article
writing that is not purely natural
science (physics, chemistry, etc.).
»CL8:That view on objectivity is more along
the lines of 'looking at all relevant
aspects of a given thing, and making
the relevant comments and links'.»CL1:
'Relevant' here means using one's
knowledge and experience when looking
at the aspect in full, noticing and
describing things according to that
knowledge. If there is anyone left
reading this by now, I guess it is
time to concretise what I have
written, with some examples.
Consider a professor in English and a
farmer being asked to describe
Shakespeare's 'Macbeth' according to
each of the 3 interpretations of
'objectivity' I have given. The first
interpretation was actually a kind of
subjectivism,»CL7: but it is very prevalent
in the scene, that is, always writing
as many nice things as possible, or
at least not writing the negative
things, or, being very gentle with it,
if it cannot be helped. »CL1:The second was
the 'purely neutral/passive view,
devoid of interpretation', and the
third was the 'interpretation using
available understanding & experience,
starting from a neutral standing
point'. In the first case, the
professor would be full of praise for
the work, so much praise that he need
not criticize at all (and admittedly,
it is hard for such a professor not
to be positive about most of
Shakespeare's works), while the poor
farmer would have his trouble
understanding the play, but if he
managed to grasp the meaning of most
of the words, he would gain an
impression about the play, and likely
find it jolly and interesting (»CL8:more so
if he could just view the play,
instead of reading it»CL1:). He would not
quite grasp the real meanings behind
the text, the subtleties, or indeed,
the overall theme maybe, but he would
likely enjoy it, and if not, he can
excuse himself and say he was too
inept. Both would not have to be
negative, after all, Shakespeare is
such a nice fellow, he tries hard, and
one should not discourage those few
who try hard by actually criticizing
them, no no..
»CL7:In the second (and maybe most
interesting, since this might be held
as a goal for serious journalism by
some editors) interpretation of
objectivity, the two 'reviewers' are
actually on close to even grounds,»CL1: as
the knowledge of the professor of the
actual contents of the book is
subjective and extraneous. The
professor and the farmer would both
describe the book as so-and-so thick,
of having this amount of pages, of
having this layout, this cover, of
consisting of black marks written on
white paper, of weighing so-and-so,
etc. They could both do a somewhat
precise review, according to this
criteria. This would be like a scene
musician and a random, not very
musical person, reviewing the same
piece of music. They would both
be equally good at it, with that
criteria.
»CL8:Lastly, and here is the conclusion,
and the be-all-end-all thing for this
discussion about objectivity in
articles,»CL1: when reviewing the book
according to the 3rd interpretation of
objectivity, you would get an
extensive, likely brilliant, highly
academic and thoroughly extensive and
enlightening review of 'MacBeth' from
the professor, while the farmer (yes,
I know, I am being cruel to farmers,
it is just for illustration, eheh)
would fall terribly short of the goal
of providing a reasonable review,
because he has not had the training,
nor the inclination for this
particular review, infact the farmer
would not even begin to understand the
intricacies of the play, or the new
words Shakespeare introduces in it.
However, the professor would do a
review as it should be. He has the
education for this review (though he
would not have it for a review of
crop-rotation, just to be fair), and
he has the expertise to point out good
and bad things about it. »CL7:Of course,
you will have to bear in mind that the
opinion of the professor might not be
easily accessible, that is,
understandable, and it might also be
biased, but it would still be
objective according to the 3rd
interpretation,»CL1: unless the professor
has personal feelings of hatred
towards Shakespeare (always forced to
read him before going to bed, beaten
on the head with a Shakespeare book by
his father, etc.), because he is
judged able to make a professional
estimate of the worth of the play (ok
ok, maybe he is a boring dork, and
does not appreciate this sort of
intricacies, but you get my meaning).
Others might of course disagree, but
calling his opinion 'subjective' and
not 'objective', would be an error.
»CL8:Phew.. Somewhere into this article, I
asked myself why I was writing this,
and making the article so inaccessible
to people, but I guess I just wanted
to cut loose, so probably only 50%
fellow editors and die-hard masochists
are with me now.»CL1: I do hope you got my
point though, it is wider and more
general than you might think. For now,
Wade's and my own article have
hopefully demonstrated that we need
this way of reviewing and looking at
things, otherwise we would be cold,
boring machines , or ignorant, boring,
back-clappers. »CL7:What the scene needs,
is not this kind of *passivity* in
opinions or deeds.»CL1: The scene needs a
little more bite, a little more
honesty, and certainly it does not
benefit from handling everything like
it is fragile and might break if one
says something 'not-so-flattering'
about it. This will stifle our scene,
make it devoid of values and meaning,
and this is actually rather important.
So important that I, after having
established the preliminaries, will
deal with this topic in the next
article. For now, remember that cold
objectivity, or uncritical
back-clapping leads to passivity and
non-caring in the scene, certainly not
to a brighter and more objective way
of things..
»PIC:5.iff»